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She answer Jawsey, and Mato
“Nobody has Humanities best interests at their heart, not the mayor and not Urubia. They all use us to their needs, the Mayor wants to still be in charge, so she needs the gangs divided so that she can still be the mayor of Redmond. Not that she controls much more than Touristville. Urubia wants her own dominance, so she does her thing.
I wouldn’t worry much about Nightmare. Sure he is a fire spirit, and he eats people to grow stronger. He is evil, and the world would be a better place without Nightmare. I’d kill him myself if I could but take a step back and breathe. Does Nightmare kill more people than his colleagues? Can you be a crime lord without putting people in the ground? Does it matter if you drain them out of their life force, shoot them? or harvest their organs? The outcome is the same. Like Mato says metahumans are not the top of the food chain but do you care if it is a metahuman that oppresses you, a dragon, or a fire spirit? At the end of the day, you still pay their taxes and play nice with them so they let you do business.”
“ I suspect that Urubia controls Nightmare as a puppet. Either she bounded him, or she has his true name, I just don’t see why else he’ll join. “ she sighs “If we can prove it it may be worth a lot of money for the Mayor.
she looks at Mato and Bobby “I don’t mind to move, but here we have contacts. We have a working relationship with many of the players. Why do you think that Nightmare and Urubia are a reason to move?
Mato, are you up for some cake? We need to celebrate your freedom.
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@Tecumseh AM is SINless and so both of them are dictatorships. She cannot vote or anything, one is dysfunctional and the other may be functional, and no matter what she selects there is a dragon calling the shots;)
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AM responds to Jawsey “You need to understand who walked in here, Urubia took control over Redmond. Our meddling does not change that much, and it could have been others. If Urubia is queen, then Big Stank is indeed a duke . Now here is an opportunity to get some influence over the duke. Second, the man came with a problem. He did not come to boss us around or to force us to do anything. As Mato says it is a bounty – we do not have to do it, but it is good money if we did.“
<font face=”inherit”>She sighs painfully I am too illegal to move to other districts. My SIN would not hold a serious inspection, and my Erika outright illegal. So I am in no condition to move from here anytime soon, and I trust Urubia more than I trust the Mayor. I mean, the Mayor wants to keep things as usual, but Urubia has a vision. I think it is a good change. It saddens me that we had to put some sticks in the wheels but it pays the bills.
She smiles at Mato when he admits to murdering his childhood bully. If only she could solve her issues the same way.
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I agree, it would be very nice to hear from him and what’s he been up to in his time away from us.
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“It is almost like a good job because I used every bit of charm I had left in me to make Big Stank cooperative. Despite the fact that I stink, and miserable, and cold, and that I have more reasons to dislike the big, violent, arrogant, rude, bullies than any of you two. So you feel the same way? Good, but can we agree that we do not have to like an asshole to take his money?” Speak to Mato about it, he has charts and statistics as if we are a proper business. The brutal truth is that our day-to-day job barely pays the rent, and we also have debt and other expenses. We survive because once in a while someone asks us to do something illegal or dangerous, and pays us a large pile of money.
So when the leader of the Crimson Crush offers money, we understand that this is our bread and butter, and we try to maximize the opportunity rather than let our negative emotions rob us of the opportunity. Jawsey, you want to play hard negotiator, fine. Get him to pay for some of the damages his guys caused before you even hear what he had to say. I am sure we could get something if we played our cards right. The man literally showed us the credsticks he brought to the meeting, it is a tale-tale sign.
You suggest outrageous gun-free zones to blow up the negotiations? Why, don’t you follow the conversation and see what we can get out of the man instead? Bobby, we do not insult the man, unless it would somehow get him to pay more. Asshole or saint, SIS needs a working relationship with Crimson Crush because they are strong and are backed up by a dragon, and they made allies with all the other gangs in Redmond. We need not antagonize their organization if we want to do business in their turf.
She get her head in her hands frustrated “Sometimes it feels like you are sabotaging the negotiations rather than maximizing our revenue. I try to do damage control, but it is so frustrating. We can do much better than we did. Why am I the one leading the negotiations when Jawsey is the one charming enough to have brokered the treaty of Denver? What happened to you since the Mayor’s office? What is it about dragons? Did you lose your confidence, or what? Where is that charm that got us well paid until now? We really need you at your best Jawsey.
Bobby, I know that you mean well, and I know that you can simply kill Big Stank and almost anyone in Redmond. I understand that it makes etiquette tricky because you never had to play nice. Whereas, if I play rude people break my bones. Still, we are a pack, and SIS needs a relationship with the Crimson Crush. Besides, even if you do kill him, and even if we survive the aftermath. We’ll still need the Crimson Crush to treat us fairly, and they would still have some arrogant prick with a ridiculous name in charge.“
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It took me several tries to try and imagine what the situation is. So I made AM a lot shorter and edited my post. I’ll cancel it entirely if things go so fast that she can’t calm down the situation.
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If at first, the little elf was angry, she now feels a bit worried. She says in a non-confrontational voice and tries to deescalate the situation. Bobby, Big Stank It goes without saying that we entered this agreement with a certain degree of trust. We do not ask you not to hire other people, or not to accept her from someone else. However, if we need to fight over your daughter with someone you hired, then you placed her at additional risks. We understand that competition is inevitable because there are multiple organizations that seek to determine her fate. We hope that we can limit the competition from the Crimson Crush as I am not sure that more agents would give you better performance. She looks at him At the end of the day Big Stank, she is your daughter and you will do what you think is best for her.
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It is not rational anger, and Jawsey may very well be Mr. Thoughtful.
To put the finger of what she is feeling, perhaps greed is the cynical term. It is like, let’s say you ask to buy a car- the seller wants 20k you say 15k and then the buyer just agrees with you on the spot without thinking. Now you think you could have gotten the car for 12k, You got what you asked for but you may still feel bad about the deal. Wheres, if the other guy says no way 15k and you settle on 17k you would feel like you got a good price. So your feeling toward the outcome does not revolve just about objective success. E.g., the 15k outcome is better than the 17k outcome.
So Jawsey just wants the man to leave and the deal to explode. AM does not care that much about it because 10k to find and bring Bonita to possible interrogation, torture does not look that attractive to her, but then she manages to get 30k – and it suddenly feels like very good money. Now she is disappointed that they could have gotten more of the man and that all that negative approach hurt them. Again, not rational they had a great roll, and Mr. Big is a good negotiator on his own right (better than AM actually).
So she would not be very rational, it is mainly her debt/stress and the fact that they have no electricity, she had no shower. Jawsey comes from paradise which she cannot afford and does not feel as eager as her to get them good pay. At any case, I edited a bit because it felt a bit much reading it again.
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Well, as I hinted in the IC thread. AM does not feel much love for Jawsey right now.
I am uncertain what harsh words I am going to put in her mouth once Big Stank leaves, but it is all IC drama. I love playing with you Beta and I love Jawsey.
P.S: I am reasonable in negotiations and I and my wife often work together to get a better price. We negotiate more mundane things than we do in this game though. Interests on loans, price of car/house/renovations/furniture. Not sure if it makes me good at writing these scenes though.
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AM says “It is a challenge Big Stank, but we are motivated, and we will be careful.” she says and manages a smile. Or at least curving her lips, but it is not Big Stank that bothers her. She does not like the man, but he will pay her if she does her part. She trust him enough for that. She feels anger at Jawsey for this entire situation, more anger than she realized she had just a moment ago.
On one hand, AM feels satisfied that she managed to negotiate well, on the other hand Jawsey could have done it better than her. It is his forte, not hers. if she can get 30k, then Jawsey could have gotten 40 or even 50k. Big Stank could have paid more, she feels it. If only Jawsey showed a little passion for negotiation that is. Instead, she has to defuse his impossible conditions and makes sure that Big Stank stays rational about this deal. The man came to offer them money for crying out loud, why doesn’t he want to maximize the offer before thinking if he is going to do it? For 10k she wouldn’t have done it herself, not much left after you split 10k to four. For 30k probably, they don’t get a 30k job every day. For 50k? Hell yes! She and Bobby could have cleared the entire debt with that. She could have been saved from the Mafia. He knows that she needs that money, why can’t he be as amazing as he usually is?
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As tempting as it is to get more dice, AM did not cast the spell prior to opening the door, and would not cast spells in front of imposing gangers that may take offense. The spell is obvious (she has skill 5 and it is F5), so she would not do it.
The only thing reasonable would be to excuse herself, but that might as well surrender the situation to Jawsey that was negative about this entire interaction (and not that bright in negotiation recently – e.g., distracted by the dragon in the Mayor’s room). Considering these factors, I don’t think she would cast the spell before getting into negotiations.
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I live in Israel, and more specifically In Beer Sheba in the south of Israel (in a desert) so my intuition about things does not cover Seattle.
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Edge it is, slightly bad for us that AM takes the lead mechanically but IC it makes sense since Jawsey seems to not want to even negotiate with the man.
Roll for Jawsey (help):
Negotiation ( aid): 13d6t5 5
Now for AM 9 dice + 4 help.
Negotiation (with aid): 13d6t5 5
AM does not like Bonita and is mainly motivated by closing her debt, rather than what is good for Redmond/the world. So she’ll edge it trying to get a better offer for the team.
Negotiation (with aid) reroll: 8d6t5 2
7 hits total, all hits are kept.
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Big Stank, we are trying to reach an agreement. Your offer while very generous is not as attractive as it appears at a first glance. First, we speculate that some of your new allies want her dead. So there is the risk that she is already dead, or that someone else would get her before us. We took about 20k to find a lost boy, you are asking us to find a very dangerous person that may try to kill us, for a mere 10k. We’ll keep an eye for her, but if you want us to drop what we are doing and actively look for her, we’ll need more.
She shares her thoughts. Reading between the lines, he wants her or anyone associated with her, and he wants them physically and alive. It feels like he wants to interrogate her. Pretty positive that our Bonita has something of value. The man does not want her dead, and he is not paying cash to find her.
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@Tecumesh I use gas indoors to cook and never had problems. I’d assume that camping gear should be safe to use also indoors (I mean I made coffee in cabins, with it a lot), are on the same page as what she is using?
I was thinking about something like this:
sorry if I lack the English word for it, I only use English for PbP and for professional talks.
I fixed the name fo StraightEdge
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How many of your people should we expect with StraightEdge? and if I dare ask, what do you plan to do with StraightEagle and her crew once they are back? I am asking to understand if we have room for diplomacy when approaching her.
She asks, and carefully watches for the response of the imposing orc.
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Can I buy one hit? 😉
body*2: 4d6t5 2
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on a small camping gas stove. She use one in the lodge for the magic rituals. She also made tea to the spirits in the scene where she and Jawsey had a mind trip over the city.
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AM watches the guys measuring metaphorical dicks. She thinks about Jawsey You don’t have to like the guy to take his money. Besides, if you insist on hating one of the CC, Bonita is your woman. She and her people vandalized and terrorized people in the hood, and she personally led the attack that damaged our house and wiped up your Brain Eater friends. This guy is the strongest one but I bet that Bonita was the mastermind of it all. As arrogant as he is, he offers money for something we can do, be polite, and get us a good deal. There is no reason to refuse him. Besides, he’ll destroy our house if you insult him infront of his people, and I can’t afford a hotel room.
She tries to soften what Jawsey is saying and adds “Big Stank, we run a business here. You lead the strongest gang in Redmond, and are the man responsible now. We want a lasting relationship with you and with the Crimson Crush. Yet, StraightEagle was bullying people on the streets, and causing excessive collateral damage is very bad for us. She did so under the Crimson Crush colors. This is Touristville, we make our living out of tourists. Nobody wants to come to a war zone, not for dining in a restaurant, and not even for a photograph of their cheating wife. Other businesses experience the same problems even if they are too afraid to approach you. This turf would not worth much to you without the businesses. Think about it.”
She says and pours their guests and Jawsey some of her Herbal tea, she seats and holds the hot mug in her hands enjoying its warmth. She can barely recognize herself for feeling peaceful enough to drink tea with three monster trolls known for violence in their home, but showing weakness is the worst thing one can do when dealing with criminals. The weak get exploited, and the strong get cooperation.
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@Tecumseh Thanks, I wanted the extended test to produce the spirit be less abstract, so I imagined what kind of work it involves.
@Beta – AM offered Jawsey to call Zwipe to be hired as a technician – if it happened it should be in Chapter 5 and not in the interlude (3 days earlier). She was thinking of Jawsey when she offered that, she has no technician contact.