OoC SFW

  • adamu

    Member
    October 25, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    Okay, my IC is up.

    If anyone is wondering how I can be so sure of success against a guy rolling 24 defense dice and with Edge to spend, I am permanently burning one point of Edge for the Smackdown option.

    I automatically get four net successes on my subdual attack, which added to my Strength tops Cid’s physical limit. That leaves him immobilized, his only option being to use a complex action to try to break out.

    The other people piling on seems like a reasonable assumption for their actions, and will make it darned hard for the guy to break free, but even if he did, it takes a complex and still leaves him without a simple action to use the grenade he was readying.

    The rules are not clear, but I suppose he also could burn a point of Edge to counter my burn. But (A) seems a bit un-sporting, since as an NPC he does not feel the 40-karma-point pain, and (B) if we go that route, then adept girl can just burn a point of HER Edge and same result. So I think we can agree that would be a pointless escalation at the cost of the story.

    And so that is why I felt I could go ahead and write that result in the IC.

    Hopefully with three of us holding him, someone can gas or shock or mana-stun him or something before he can try breaking free and blow us all up!

  • jack_spade

    Moderator
    October 26, 2017 at 3:09 am

    Wow, you know that is an extreme sacrifice – cudos to you.
    My move would have been to disarm him remotely adding my own edge to it.

  • aria

    Member
    October 26, 2017 at 4:04 am

    Ok, out of combat time, he is well and truly subdued, your move!

  • adamu

    Member
    October 26, 2017 at 5:12 am

    My move would have been to disarm him remotely adding my own edge to it.

    Yup, thought of that, and about four other RAW options for Al to subdue him or take the grenade away.
    But at the end fo the day, all of them had to get past his massive defense pool + his Edge. I ran the numbers on all the options, but none of them topped about a 50% chance of success.
    The Edge burn was the only way to be SURE.

  • mercy

    Member
    October 26, 2017 at 9:09 am

    Sorry. I had thought that the sub was on davits suspended over the water, not already in the water.

  • jack_spade

    Moderator
    October 26, 2017 at 9:19 am

    Not the point:
    Since this habitat isn’t pressurized the “moonpool” is actually just a water lock with two or three doors. If you open those doors we are flooded. If you open only some but throw a HE grenade in it, the pressure wave could damage the outer door. Since water isn’t compressible and the grenade would sink to the bottom you’d have a tamped explosion, practically doubling the pressure of the explosion down onto the door.
    Even with all doors closed you’d risk damaging the doors so it won’t open again, trapping us inside.

  • mercy

    Member
    October 26, 2017 at 10:28 am

    OK. I may not have been clear. The hatch I was opening was to the submarine I had thought was suspended over the water and I would have expected the interior of the sub to take the force of the explosion. I am not sure where I miscommunicated that. It was never my intent to have the grenade tossed into the water.

    Still, Al’s sacrifice was probably a cooler answer.

  • adamu

    Member
    October 26, 2017 at 10:55 am

    I was clear on the image of Alyce opening a hatch on the sub, hoping the sub’s hull might contain the blast. I thought it was a really really good idea in a tight situation.

    Just from Aria’s IC (“reaching for…” the grenade), I figured we weren’t to a pulled pin (or 2076 equivalent) yet. And while the sub was a good idea if we were desperate for a place to put an explosion, I was also aware that it could actually make it worse if the grenade detonated any fuel cells in the sub.

    But just to be clear, Al didn’t make any sacrifice at all – just did what he does, completely unsurprised at his success.
    I as a player, on the other hand….but I knew the day I’d need to do that would eventually come, and fifty-seven IC posts from now I will be back to “normal”!!!

    Also – hat’s off again to Aria – the big set piece battles he sets up near the end of his runs (assuming we are near the end of this run….) are always real knuckle-biters!

  • aria

    Member
    October 26, 2017 at 11:39 am

    Happy to please 🙂

  • jack_spade

    Moderator
    October 27, 2017 at 5:30 am

    @Mercy
    Sorry, that was my mistake. I read to fast and missed the open the hatch of the sub in the bay.
    But yeah, destroying the sub would have been sub-optimal ^^

  • aria

    Member
    October 27, 2017 at 11:21 am

    Hi folks, Friday has snuck up on me again… so you can, if you want to, post some bits and pieces over the weekend…

    On taking Cid to the medbay Alyce will find an anomalous device attached to his reaction enhancer software. It isn’t wifi so that’s no help. If it is a cortex bomb it will almost certainly have anti-tamper stuff to prevent anyone removing it!

    I will try and answer any OoC queries if I can but no promises!

    Have a good weekend. A

  • adamu

    Member
    October 27, 2017 at 11:33 am

    Hmmm – not sure it’s RAW, but could we use Al’s Demolitions skill as a teamwork assist for Robyn’s medical-something test as a way to try to disarm it?
    And, before that, Al would use his demoltions skill to determine if this is (assuming it’s a cortex bomb) a mini-bomblet designed to just kill the victim, or some nasty blow up the whole room kind of thing.

  • adamu

    Member
    October 30, 2017 at 7:37 am

    @Aria – per my last IC (and Obi’s last IC) – what can Al see once he get into the sub in terms of its capabilities. I have no clue even if it’s a mini sub or a big one that can takes lots of passengers/cargo, whether it’s somehow “locked”, fuel/general repair, weapons/sensors.
    As noted, Al still doesn’t trust She-HAL or there could be head case hackers, so he cuts off wifi right away.

    No idea what is going on with Cid – first I thought he was going to the sick bay about cortex bombs/interrogation, now not sure where all that is (there is a bomb? there’s not a bomb? let me know if you need demo skill).

    Al is in the sub for the moment….

  • aria

    Member
    October 30, 2017 at 7:58 am

    Ok… sub is a small one, although not ‘mini’ …enough for 10 or so people on board (not sure if there are any suitable models in the books, will have to check, feel free to suggest one). There is also a mini sub and some hard shells in this sub bay.

    Any weapons will be deterrent only probably – sonic stuff maybe. There’s probably a security version sub bay with some more lethal stuff but most is handled by the base defences. Sensors, standard package and locks will be ‘normal’ so nothing Al can’t work around if needed.

    All are suitably fuelled and ready to go… fuel cells probably…

    I think Cid is off to the sickbay. His cortex bomb (yes there is one!) is big enough to kill him, nothing more. Any surgery should be enough to set it off, so I don’t see how you could disarm it… it’s been designed to be irremovable! Of course you’re a canny bunch so maybe you can come up with something?

  • aria

    Member
    November 1, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    How much of your escape do you want to play out? I was thinking of writing a sequence and then going on to stage 2 of SFW in a couple of in game months… there will of course be opportunities for flash back posts if there are things you need to cover… let me know your thoughts…

  • mercy

    Member
    November 1, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    I am OK with some gloss and can fluff some of the activities in Cornwall if the monads take Robyn up on her offer to give them a home. If that happens I guess I will need to read up on them a bit. What is the source book?

  • adamu

    Member
    November 1, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @Aria – aside from some personal RP, seems like this is pretty much done aside from the tedious logistics of getting us clear.

    So fast or slow as you like is fine with me.

    As stated in the IC, Al won’t send any codes until we are all in control of security subs and out of the facility. If the She-HAL doesn’t trust us enough for that deal, she should understand that we WANT to keep our deal and let the headcases go, since our motive is to save the uninfected from Evo’s scorched seabed response…..

  • mercy

    Member
    November 1, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    I think I need to know something about these monads before I respond to Al. To my understanding, he monads being allowed to leave was given as the only way to save those who are not already infected, right? If so, there has been no alternative put forward to her giving them a place to live, or have I missed something there?

  • adamu

    Member
    November 1, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    Yes and no.

    Yes, allowing them to leave is the best way to save the uninfected. We (Isaint and Al, at least) don’t WANT to let them go, because they will go on to infect others. Plus we don’t like them. But killing them before leaving is impractical – (1) they are super hard to really kill, (2) there are at least 13 of them, all armed, and we don’t know where they are, (3) She-HAL would be against us, and (4) the clock is ticking on an Evo response. Likewise, we don’t have a way to effectively evacuate the rest of the population in an orderly manner that leaves no one behind.

    So yes, we have to let them go in order that (hopefully) Evo won’t nuke the site from orbit.

    But no, there is nothing requiring someone give them a place to live. They have an agenda of their own, and are more than capable of fending for themselves. Goodness only knows what evil they’ll get up to once out of here, but honestly I’ll be very surprised if they are interested in living in isolation in Cornwall. If they did take Alyce on the sub with them under that pretense, it would likely only be to infect her. No way they are going to just hang out peacefully on a moor somewhere. More importantly, they are not asking for a safe haven on the surface, they are merely asking for help to get out of the aquacology all safe and still-infected.

  • mercy

    Member
    November 1, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    @Adamu Thank you for the insight. I am not very familiar with nanite technology. How do they spread and infect others?

    @Aria Am I setting myself up for a disaster here?

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